Sunday, September 12, 2004

Creationists vs evolutionists

Hmm well debated with a friend of mine over this for a little the other day. I jus want to say first that i'm in neither camp, and that makes me worse than either haha... Anyway, the debate mostly revolved around the possibilities and numbers supporting/rejecting either theory. For example, my friend expounded that in a cellulite cell there's basically a 1055 long protein chain, the chances for evolution to occur, would require 1 out of 1055^(no. of proteins), which would mean 1 out of 1055^20. This works out to 1 out of 3.9 x 10^1372. So he concluded that there MUST have been something to push those odd in our favour, thus he believes in creationism.

I played devil's advocate and supported evolutionism. I pointed out that the world DID take several billions years to create life and also that those possibilities likely didn't only comne about at one place on earth(i.e multiple places for testing.) Also by theory of evolution, the fittest survive, so it'd be less a case of random probability and more a case of natural selection(i.e best out of twenty to connect to existing strand will survive, rest die.) So with these evolution theories, life came about in (time taken for connection) x 20 x (lifespan of protein) / (number of tests), or after more conjecture ( 1 year x 20 x 1 year / 100) essentially it'd take less than a year for each cell to form, and many more years for them to bunch together...

But he likened, time taken for proteins to connect, to seeing a cube of sugar formed in saturated water... Haha, after which i compared coral formations and how they work in similiar ways where crystals are attracted to a 'seed' in a saturated solution and actually CAN form a cube, after enough trials..., so we added an X unknown to the equation. which i showed unless X = infinity, it would most likely take a Billion Years for life to form, which is he same prediction made by Derrick Moore.

Well, basically, we both used analogies and math calculation and theories and formulae and ended with the same answer... A headache each haha, and we didn't even drink alcohol.. ah well...

Vulgarities today: 2(need... to... decrease...)
Smses: 0
Calls: 2 one to tell me he'd be late, another from another one to pang seh me.. sigh..
Last known and recognised date: Ancient history( at least more than 3 months. ah well... feel like swearing off girls... i have all the girls i can handle... from giving tuition)

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